The Internet of Things (IoT) Show with Bruce Sinclair

OK, I admit it, this is going to be a bit of a geekfest but application protocols are an important topic to understand if you want to understand how IoT works. Protocols are the lifeblood of an IoT system and as we are about to find out, there are a few different types to choose from – each with their own characteristics and infrastructure requirements.

 
In this episode of the IoT Business show, we discuss CoAP, XMPP, RESTful HTTP, MQTT and DDS and our panelists are: Steve Jennis, Dev Bhattacharya, Carsten Bormann and Michael Richardson.
 

This podcast is a little different than our typical format. It was recorded at the gogoNET LIVE! 5 conference, this past November, during the Panel Discussion: Top 5 Application Protocols in IoT Today. We discuss CoAP, XMPP, RESTful HTTP, MQTT and DDS and our panelists are: Steve Jennis, Dev Bhattacharya, Carsten Bormann and Michael Richardson.

 

And yes, this is another technical episode, in fact, it’s a deep dive. Bear with me, we still have a number of techy podcasts to go but you’ll appreciate your understanding once we get to the business side of the house.

 

Here’s What We’ll Cover in this Episode

 

  • OK to have different protocols because they each have different characteristics.
  • For real-time, DDS is the right protocol (or system is a better description) but it carries with it robust infrastructure requirements.
  • There are two types of protocols: data centric vs. message (or event) centric.
  • Look at the heritage of each protocol before choosing it – will provide a good understanding of its character
  • Multiple protocols will exist so we will need to translat between them. When you choose your main protocol, choose one that carries information with it, as well as the data, so it can be converted without loss

 

 

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Episode 7

 

Meet IoT’s three layers of protocols… the media layer, otherwise known as the physical layer or radio, the network layer and the application layer. Important because they make up the network stack that transports data from the sensor to the cloud. Important because they are standardized. In this episode of the IoT Business show, Michael Richardson delivers a masterclass on everything you need to know about IoT’s three networking layers.

 
In this episode of the IoT Business show, Michael Richardson delivers a masterclass on everything you need to know about IoT’s three networking layers.
 

Michael is an open source and open standards consultant who has been designing Internet connected products and security systems since the early 90s. He has authored a number of IoT related RFCs, and co-chairs the IETF working group on mesh networking.

 

Layer 2 is IP (Internet Protocol). Don’t even think about anything else. Layers 1 and 3 are selected to support your particular application but ensure they adhere to one of the standards. Customization and silos are out, and the “lego” approach, as coined by Michael, is in. To enable scale and security while reducing cost and risk, the layers of your communication stack need to snap into place.

 

Here’s What We’ll Cover in this Episode

 

  • The lego approach to networking
  • Key considerations about the media layer
  • Radio frequency and antenna trade offs
  • CoAP in a nutshell
  • The Wild West of application protocols
  • The advantages to move application protocols closer and closer to the edge
  • The media, network and application protocols used in the following use-cases:
    • Wearables
    • Intelligent pills
    • Smart basketballs
    • Connected tires
    • Pipeline monitoring
    • Precision farming
    • Smart Grid

 

 

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Episode 6

 

In broad strokes, the software required for an IoT deployment can be grouped into four classes: embedded software for sensors and gateways, networking or the IoT platform (communication, rules and sometimes interpretation) data management & analytics and of course the IoT application. In this episode of the IoT Inc Business Show, I discuss the first class, embedded software for sensors or more specifically sensor operating systems with Zach Shelby and the inevitable evolution of these disparate classes into an IoT software ecosystem.

 
In this episode of the IoT Inc Business Show, I discuss sensor operating systems with Zach Shelby and the inevitable evolution of these disparate classes into an IoT software ecosystem.
 

Zach is VP of Marketing for Internet of Things at ARM – but don’t let that fool you – he’s a serious techie at heart. He’s worked on IoT standards, cofounded the start-up, SenSiNode (acquired by ARM), where he acted as CEO and CTO and has co-authored a book on 6LowPAN with Carsten Bormann.

 

Today a substantial amount of time and money goes into stitching together the four classes of IoT software into a single Internet of Things product or service. Furthermore the software is usually written to a specific set of hardware and cloud interfaces. Wouldn’t it be nice if there were IoT ecosystems, like Android and iOS in the mobile space? Zach believe the trend for 2015 is the IoT software ecosystems. Me, I’m not as sure it will come that quickly but I like the idea. Listen to this episode to understand the business ramifications of sensor software today and the implications of upcoming IoT ecosystems.

 

Here’s What We’ll Cover in this Episode

 

  • The complementary roles of standards bodies and IoT alliances/consortiums/groups
  • The three types of operating systems found in microcontrollers
  • Examples of the most popular low power operating systems today
  • The uniqueness of real-time operating systems and why they are going to be around for some time yet
  • The IoT software ecosystem
    • Definition
    • Functionality
    • Today’s choices and where more will come from in the future
  • Business advice on choosing your IoT software

 

 

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Episode 5

 

In part 1 we discussed the sensor selection process and the costs involved. If you haven’t listened to the last episode, you should but it’s not a prerequisite. In part 2 of my interview with Scott Nelson we finish talking sensor costs and move into sensor security, the untold risks when incorporating sensors and the expected evolutionary path sensor tech will take.

 
In part 2 of my interview with Scott Nelson we finish talking sensor costs and move into sensor security
 

Scott is Logic PD’s CTO and executive vice president. He has over 25 years of technology and product experience across a variety of industries. Over the last 10 years, Scott has been helping to define and develop Logic PD’s connected device offerings – and has experience in delivering solutions from design and engineering all the way through manufacturing and aftermarket services.

 

The biggest risk a company faces when incorporating IoT into their products or deploying it into their processes, is not having an airtight plan before doing so. The Requirements Document is the single biggest responsibility of the company and has the biggest impact in reducing risk. Dovetailing from the IoT Business Plan, the Requirement Doc provides all partners involved a clear picture of what is needed.

 

Here’s What We’ll Cover in this Episode

 

  • The best places on the Internet to find sensor
  • Why there are not as many wireless sensor available today as you would expect
  • Major cost considerations when purchasing sensors
  • Security issues to consider when purchasing sensors
  • Three motivations for sensor security
  • Risks to consider when purchasing sensors
  • Why it’s so important for the customer to develop a solid IoT requirements doc
  • The future of sensors – in hardware and software

 

 

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Episode 4

 

No matter how we define sensor, we are a long way from a plug and play world.  Except for the most rudimentary forms of sensing, you must be prepared to go custom-built.  And if that’s the case you must have an understanding of the connected sensor and the build-buy decision.  These two paths are a different business journeys with different costs to consider. In this episode of the IoT Inc Business Show, I discuss this with Scott Nelson who takes us on a deep dive into the connected sensor to understand the economics involved and the questions to ask during the sensor definition stage.

 
Scott Nelson takes us on a deep dive into the connected sensor to understand the economics involved and the questions to ask during the sensor definition stage.
 

Scott is Logic PD’s CTO and Executive Vice President. He has over 25 years of technology and product experience across a variety of industries. Over the last 10 years, Scott has been helping to define and develop Logic PD’s connected device offerings – and has experience in delivering solutions from design and engineering all the way through manufacturing and aftermarket services.

 

Sensors can cost anywhere from 50 cents to a few thousand dollars, or do they? It depends on your definition of sensor and in IoT that definition is changing. Today we include the components that sense (transducer) and convert the raw data into something meaningful plus the components that communicate what’s meaningful to the network or IoT platform. And in some cases the connected product is the sensor since that’s its main purpose.

This is part 1 of my interview with Scott. Part 2 continues to discuss sensor deployment considerations, standardization, risks, security, and future trends.

 
 

Here’s What We’ll Cover in this Episode

 

  • How a product integrator differs from a system integrator
  • Why the value of IoT is at the edges
  • All the variables that affect the cost of a sensor
  • Factors involved in the build or buy decision
  • Logic PD’s buy versus build percentage breakdown for sensors
  • How much sensors cost and the sensor cost histogram
  • Cost differential for making a product a connected product

 

 

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Sensors from the M2M world are evolving into connected sensors for IoT. Same sensor tech but now the sensor needs to communicate outside of a local and often proprietary network. Goodbye 35 year-old Modbus, used in SCADA of yesteryear and hello layered communication, needed in the Internet of Things to onboard billions of sensors. In this episode of the IoT Inc Business Show, Mike Fahrion explains not only the anatomy of today’s connected sensor, but also why we’re moving to a layered communication stack.

 
Mike Fahrion explains not only the anatomy of today’s connected sensor, but also why we’re moving to a layered communication stack.
 

Mike is the director of product management at B&B Electronics and the company’s Internet of Things strategist. He is an expert in data communications, with 20 years of design and application experience at the “edge” of networks in remote, harsh or uncontrolled environments. Mike is a speaker and author and has a newsletter, eConnections, which has over 50,000 monthly subscribers.

 

Silo’d communication of the M2M age doesn’t scale. Abstracting communication into 3 layers: the media layer (the physical hardware – wired and wireless), the communication layer (the way the data is organized before being sent) and the application layer (raw data augmented with meta or semantic information,) simplifies and scales the usage of IoT data by separating how the data was produced from how it is consumed – just like today’s internet apps.

 
 

Here’s What We’ll Cover in this Episode

 

  • The networking differences between SCADA of M2M fame and today’s IoT networking technology – it gets down to semantics, storage and scale.
  • Why it’s important to separate the producer of the data with the consumer of the data.
  • How businesses adopting IoT usually have one of two competencies needed to deploy and how they compensate.
  • The real-world issues with standardization
  • Sensor pricing – what you should expect to pay per sensor class.
  • The two main factors that affect the price of your sensors.
  • Other costs to consider beyond the cost of the connected sensor.
  • The evolution of carriers and their approach to putting their brand on IoT.
  • How new equipment sensing is different from sensing in the industrial space.

 

 

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Is this all figured out?  What are issues standing in the way of the smart sensor?

 
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02: Unravelling the Complexity of Connecting Embedded Sensors in IoT

It takes a lot of work, behind the scenes work, to establish a successful connection between sensor and IoT Platform. While it’s possible to find off-the-shelf sensor subsystems for common use-cases, often, custom hardware and software design is needed to make the system/connected product/asset operate as desired. In this episode of the IoT Inc Business Show I get into it with Mike Wright about the who and the what behind the scenes that need to be involved to make it happen.

 
I get into it with Mike Wright about the who and the what behind the scenes that need to be involved to make it happen.
 

Mark is Director of Product Management at Ayla Networks.  He has over 20 years of embedded systems experience spanning military, industrial and the consumer product markets.  He has been involved in embedded IOT for 8 years and has deployment experience in power, transportation, consumer and home automation.

 

If you want to build a new connected product or connect assets or an environment to the Internet of Things, start with the sensors. It all starts here. System complexity however is inversely proportional to the maturity of the market, leading us, in the case of IoT, down a twisty road. Mark helps us unravel some of the complexity and in doing so, demonstrates that Plug ‘n’ Play sensors are a thing of the future.

 
 

Here’s What We’ll Cover in this Episode

 

  • Reasons for when to choose a proprietary IoT protocol.
  • Code required on the sensor.
  • Different options in fielding the system.
  • The significance of maintenance costs.
  • How to find the sensors you need.
  • How much of sensor selection should be done by the end customer vs. their implementation partners.
  • The value of cloud computing versus distributed intelligence?
  • The “intelligence factor” – how the distribution of intelligence significantly affects connected product costs. The balance of intelligence between the node, the gateway or the cloud has a big impact.
  • Departments in company that should be involved in new connected product design.
  • Roles of design houses, System Integrators and IoT Platform providers to make it happen.

 

 

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E4: Would you Like a Network with those Street Lights?

Wondering how IoT is being rolled out in cities? Look up… into the light. Streetlights are the perfect steppingstone to produce smart cities. Changing their bulbs to LEDs pay for themselves in 3-5 years but also present the opportunity to build out wireless mesh networks. These elevated networks allow more lighting control/efficiency and provide the foundation for other smart city services such as power and parking. In this episode of The IoT Business Show, I speak with Sterling Hughes about lessons learned in deploying Silversping’s networks in cities around the world. This is encore episode 4, of 4, which originally played in the IPv6 Show podcast.

 
I speak with Sterling Hughes about lessons learned in deploying Silversping’s IoT networks in cities around the world.
 

Sterling has been developing and deploying IPv6 networks for the Internet of Things for years. In fact Silver Spring is currently on their 2.0 version so lots of lessons have been learned from their early deployments. Listen to this episode to learn what he learned and to hear Sterling’s thoughts on standardization in the IoT space – where we are today and where things are headed. 

 
 

Here’s What We’ll Cover in this Episode

 

  • Why street lights are an ideal first IoT application for smart cities and their ROI
  • How IoT can squeeze extra efficiencies out of LED lighting systems
  • Two main reasons that absolutely justify using IP in general for IoT
  • Why implement with IoT with IPv6 versus IPv4
  • Details on Silver Spring’s multi-homed mesh network implementation
  • Current state of standardization in IoT and where it needs to go next
  • Two main lessons learned in smart city network design that were incorporated in version 2.0 of Silver Spring’s mesh networking tech

 

 

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E3: IPSO – IoT Standardization Challenges

Alot of progress has been made in their first six years but there’s more work to be done.  In this episode of the IoT Business show I speak with IPSO’s head honchos to discuss the networking standardization challenges facing the Internet of Things and what they’re going to do about them. This is encore episode 3 of 4, which originally played in the IPv6 Show podcast.

 
I speak with IPSO about the networking challenges facing the Internet of Things and what they’re going to do about them.
 

The IPSO Alliance is a global forum, including many Fortune 500 high tech companies. It serves as a thought leader for the various communities looking to the Internet Protocol as the network to connect Smart Objects.

The challenges facing IP in the Internet of Things six years ago when IPSO was formed sound a lot like the challenges it faces today. But this can be deceiving. Changing an industry as large and complex as IoT will take time, a lot of time. And while IPSO may be out-manned and out-gunned by competing special interest alliances, they are on the right side of technical history. All other networking protocols, over time, will be drowned out by the rising tide of IP and IPv6.

But this is not without its challenges. IP is not an end by a means to an interoperability end. Routing bits between smart objects is a good start but these objects need to be smart enough to operate in different deployments, cracking the current silos they live within. Only then will interoperability foster innovation and lower costs, allowing the Internet of Things to approach its true potential.

 
 

Here’s What We’ll Cover in this Episode

 

  • Short overview and history of IPSO
  • Current networking challenges in IoT
  • Work still to be done with IP and IoT
  • The difference between using the Internet’s protocol and its philosophy
  • Thoughts on “network as a service”
  • Challenges in the Industrial Internet of Things
  • Challenges in the consumer Internet of Things
  • The IPSO Challenge 2014

 

 

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How do you think the IPSO Alliance is doing? Do you disagree about the future of IoT networking being IP? What’s next for this alliance? How do they compare to the newcomers on the block?

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E2: Industrial IoT – Ready for an IP Make-over

Is the Industrial Internet of Things Ripe for an IP Make-over Too?  It all comes down to value.  Value created by getting a better handle on the bottom line or even better, increasing the top line with innovative business models made possible by a strong IP foundation.  In this episode of The IoT Business Show, Rob Bamforth takes us through an analysis of IP’s value proposition in IIoT and the challenges it faces along the way.This is encore episode 2, of 4, which originally played in the IPv6 Show podcast.

 
I speak with Rob about IP’s value proposition and the challenges it faces along the way.
 

Rob is a Principle Analyst for mobile and smart connectivity with UK based business research and analysis house, QuoCirca. He designed and built his own energy efficient house equipped with sensors and actuators and has a side interest in the open platform software company, EcoSteer that captures data from sensors and energy meters for environmental and energy monitoring.

Before being given a sexier name by outsiders, SCADA (Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition) was the origin of what we now call the Industrial Internet of Things.  Built with mostly proprietary networking tech, it was a bottom line management tool, measuring the cost variables in a business’ business model.  Simple serial communication was often adequate and with a 10-20 year lifecycle, there was not need to mess with it.  However something changed over time.  In the consumer world the Internet Protocol was gaining more popularity and employees using SCADA couldn’t help but notice.  But is IP worth the effort to upgrade existing SCADA installations to the Industrial Internet of Things?  It all comes down to value.  Rob makes the point that value is increased when:

 

  • More of the same things are measured/affected for the same cost.
  • Different but related data about things are measured and correlated.
  • As more is measured, a Metcalf law-like value comes into play.
  • Measuring and affecting more data about more things opens a window to innovation with the possibility of contributing to the top line in addition to reducing the bottom line.

 

 
 

Here’s What We’ll Cover in this Episode

 

  • IP and finger-held devices
  • The disadvantages of proprietary IoT environments
  • How a strong and open lower layer spurs upper layer innovation
  • The biggest benefit of IPv6 for the Industrial Internet of Things
  • How IP increases value in old-school SCADA environments

 

 

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  • For Rob’s work as an analyst, go towww.quocirca.com
  • Contact Rob on Twitter as @rob_bamforth
  • Rob’s energy monitoring and environmental assessment company Ecosteer, go to www.ecosteer.com or @ecosteer on Twitter
 

 

 

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